tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post4819193210707643036..comments2024-02-18T19:36:43.844+11:00Comments on theatre notes: Review: The HereticAlison Croggonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-23510685003985594292012-06-24T01:08:22.307+10:002012-06-24T01:08:22.307+10:00DM Brilliantly put... I wholeheartedly agree.
As ...DM Brilliantly put... I wholeheartedly agree.<br /><br />As for the MTC believing they're being "avant garde" and "controversial"... Last time I checked, controversial theatre was supposed to question DOMINANT ideology, not reinforce tea-party sentiments and denialism. <br /><br />The Heretic is just that: nothing short of climate change denial propaganda masquerading as ALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-83380770071897589702012-06-23T00:28:29.048+10:002012-06-23T00:28:29.048+10:00I thought the play was unmitigated garbage. I'...I thought the play was unmitigated garbage. I've been a season subscriber for ten years, I've simply never seen anything like it before.<br /><br />The brilliant scientist, in her closing speech, declares our superiority over the stars because "Stars never split the atom". Let's not pretend for a moment that this is a fission/fusion distinction (or that the author would evenDMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-57373081206068659912012-06-18T10:48:56.905+10:002012-06-18T10:48:56.905+10:00Nice Review.Nice Review.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-63103144133850278142012-06-01T09:39:30.615+10:002012-06-01T09:39:30.615+10:00Thanks, Marco. You sum it up very well. The immedi...Thanks, Marco. You sum it up very well. The immediate contrast is how Reagan and Thatcher accepted the science on CFCs destroying the ozone layer and how relatively quickly international co-operation was reached on banning aerosols. But of course the industries around CFCs didn't have the economic power of the oil and coal industries.Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-12116161265851728132012-05-31T18:12:56.365+10:002012-05-31T18:12:56.365+10:00' I think an opportunity was lost to illustrat...' I think an opportunity was lost to illustrate the religious type zeal of each side of the debate, in which scientists etc have dug themselves in, having staked their careers/reputations on one 'side' or the other.'<br /><br />At the risk of becoming the resident climate bore it is this type of comment that underlines how successful the pseudo skeptic strategy has been.<br /><br Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-56688558136481988102012-05-31T08:12:23.486+10:002012-05-31T08:12:23.486+10:00Hi, LTMTCS - thanks for your comment. Sounds like ...Hi, LTMTCS - thanks for your comment. Sounds like we're pretty much on the same page with this one.Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-55080230348834940832012-05-30T07:48:01.583+10:002012-05-30T07:48:01.583+10:00p.s. it didn't make sense that the professor c...p.s. it didn't make sense that the professor character was in love with Diane but also arranged for her sacking. The part where she described the lead up to his hand under her jumper in that descriptive speech was another cringeworthy part that didn't 'fit' with her character - why recite that supposedly tender story when she was angry? Were we supposed to wonder if her daughter long time MTC subscribernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-70504682805283162222012-05-29T22:58:45.552+10:002012-05-29T22:58:45.552+10:00Here's what I thought...
The sets were okay/a...Here's what I thought...<br /><br />The sets were okay/average for MTC. I liked the snow falling through the windows and the lighting at the end as the sun rose..but that's about it. <br /><br />I thought the main character/Dianne was the most realistic - though I am not sure Noni is well cast for the role. I felt she seemed depressed and plodding. She seemed more like a school teacher Long time mtc subscribernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-22185337637996445112012-05-24T17:35:22.831+10:002012-05-24T17:35:22.831+10:00I got the literary reference Chris but failed to s...I got the literary reference Chris but failed to see how it applies, given you find the play so "bad" (and presented this as a matter of fact rather than faith). <br /><br />Alison, Yes, I've read Clive Hamilton too. You might "get" the polarization argument but don't seem to see that it extends to the play's reception, and that you're part of it. On one level,Cameron Woodheadhttp://cameronwoodhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-71332904236189229532012-05-24T16:37:06.409+10:002012-05-24T16:37:06.409+10:00Hi Cameron - one of the things that is very clear ...Hi Cameron - one of the things that is very clear in the discussion is that anyone familiar with the arguments of climate denialism - as opposed to scepticism, which is frankly quite a different thing - can't but notice how they underpin all the so-called claims to science in the play. At the beginning of the play Diane is touting those arguments - the Maldives sea level argument is a Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-8605058081546636412012-05-24T16:06:40.521+10:002012-05-24T16:06:40.521+10:00Oh Cameron, I'm beginning to think you have no...Oh Cameron, I'm beginning to think you have no actual concept of individual differences. Either that or I'm too much of a chameleon. <br /><br />And, man, of anyone I know, surely you would have picked up on my paraphrase of Blake: his take on Milton's treatment of Satan in Paradise Lost.Chris Boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18215203610745043810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-7449084370297938682012-05-24T15:26:53.626+10:002012-05-24T15:26:53.626+10:00Chris, it's naive to think that one's poli...Chris, it's naive to think that one's politics don't have a role in deciding whether one hated the play. Your own accusation of facetiousness (and utterly presumptuous speculation re Bean's own ignorance) has a decidedly political component: "The seriousness of the issues bandied about is so constantly undermined by the jokiness of the writing, I wondered if Bean might be a Cameron Woodheadhttp://cameronwoodhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-3485819753835468872012-05-23T15:12:19.742+10:002012-05-23T15:12:19.742+10:00Ok, but it's not really a "banal" fa...Ok, but it's not really a "banal" fact, is it? To engage with this idea is incredible, impossible and creates a myriad of responses from people everywhere. People spend their lives responding to this, others become incredibly frightened if they think about it, some try to find a way out, (like the Russian trans-humanist theorist I went to hear the other day who was speaking about Richard Pettiferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916298496154973547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-86265126521303937142012-05-23T13:00:46.150+10:002012-05-23T13:00:46.150+10:00Er...what? I didn't at any point say that we s...Er...what? I didn't at any point say that we shouldn't care what happens to us or our planet. Personally speaking, I care deeply. It's merely a banal fact that the planet will carry on without us as happily as it has carried on without dinosaurs or mammoths. And one day it will plunge into the sun, and that will be the end of that. To me, that seems to focus things rather sharply on Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-78706935697010300442012-05-23T12:09:03.807+10:002012-05-23T12:09:03.807+10:00hey tiger, I have barely an idea of what you'r...hey tiger, I have barely an idea of what you're on about, but I think that's your point, that the world is very big and I'm very small and there is a lot of bad stuff happening, but to be honest I knew that already.<br /><br />I certainly don't deny there is a bee problem in the Euro zone, and thanks everyone for the info. The bee thing just felt weird being in the global warming Richard Pettiferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916298496154973547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-74600255502323626452012-05-23T08:04:20.994+10:002012-05-23T08:04:20.994+10:00Hope you're right, tiger. The other possibilit...Hope you're right, tiger. The other possibility is that the increasing crisis triggers destructive panic reflexes that only amplify the situation (xenophobia, extreme politics, conflict, war) and thus we save the planet through human extinction. I mean, whatever happens to us, the planet won't care. Things like the plethora of fundamentalist belief, the irrational attacks on science etc Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-74699008183598636532012-05-23T06:30:38.265+10:002012-05-23T06:30:38.265+10:00Richard, in relation to the bee hive. I don't...Richard, in relation to the bee hive. I don't know too much about that, but can tell you that various things regarding the european honey bee is causing great consternation. Colony collapse disorder (CCD) is leading to the collapse of bee colonies (hives). The effects are great when you consider the role honey bees play in food production/agriculture. Many plants require insect tigernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-51129378347139186772012-05-23T06:10:44.742+10:002012-05-23T06:10:44.742+10:00Richard, yes optimism is the nature of the game. ...Richard, yes optimism is the nature of the game. For whether it's the way Audi (and the German economy for that matter) are approaching it, or whether you look around and see how much better our lives are becoming (through less air pollution for instance), the future is absolutely bright I think. <br /><br />If you look at Japan, and the way (I think almost all) their nuclear plants have tigernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-11754980935626842062012-05-22T20:38:05.984+10:002012-05-22T20:38:05.984+10:00Their literature also champions a bee hive they ha...Their literature also champions a bee hive they have developed near their plant. Which just seems a bit weird?Richard Pettiferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916298496154973547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-78545785825971191032012-05-22T20:36:22.422+10:002012-05-22T20:36:22.422+10:00Hi tiger, seems like you've got a handle on it...Hi tiger, seems like you've got a handle on it all - really optimistic and positive<br /><br />All I will say is that public money makes up about 9% of MTC revenue so I doubt they are in danger of "soaking up" too much public money. Victoria does not have a state theatre company. Ironically, German theatres don't need Audi sponsership because they are state theatres, quite well Richard Pettiferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916298496154973547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-28070626854899851922012-05-22T18:04:56.543+10:002012-05-22T18:04:56.543+10:00As a PS: quite aside from the question of death th...As a PS: quite aside from the question of death threats, the level of abuse directed at climate scientists for simply doing their job is way unacceptable. Or do you think if they're not being threatened with death, it's all ok?Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-62961966396657786222012-05-22T16:41:42.548+10:002012-05-22T16:41:42.548+10:00Let's be clear: the harassment of climate scie...Let's be clear: the harassment of climate scientists at ANU during the six month period covered by the FOI request (which postdated by a year or so the movement of scientists to more secure premises after some aggressive anti-climate science visitors caused them to fear for their safety) included lots of harassment, but seems not to have included emailed death threats.<br /><br />However, in Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-89167204075501391062012-05-22T15:44:05.733+10:002012-05-22T15:44:05.733+10:00Allison - “Just one point: @ Anon on the harassmen...Allison - “Just one point: @ Anon on the harassment of climate scientists: if you click the link handily provided you can read some of the emails.”<br /><br />Sorry Allison, but that comment is misleading.<br /> <br />The media scandal of the last year have (wrongly) alleged “death threats”. Your original post above *explicitly* referred to “death threats”.<br /><br />And yet when the Anon Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-90687234956511482642012-05-21T15:54:06.890+10:002012-05-21T15:54:06.890+10:00Hey Richard, my point can be more generally seen i...Hey Richard, my point can be more generally seen in light of much new technology - not just in the automotive field. The case is that those with money are generally able to afford new technologies, which once they reach certain production levels become cheaper. Within the automotive industry you see this in everything from airbags to abs braking systems. In solar pv systems for the domestic tigernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-14429670603336106642012-05-21T15:49:01.077+10:002012-05-21T15:49:01.077+10:00Probably worth remarking here that, even if The He...Probably worth remarking here that, even if The Heretic was perhaps an opportunistic and certainly somewhat in-your-face marketing push, Audi is a major sponsor of the STC.Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.com