tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post8608168280314706485..comments2024-02-18T19:36:43.844+11:00Comments on theatre notes: Review: Special, Silent DiscoAlison Croggonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-82716951064124081642011-08-26T03:00:00.473+10:002011-08-26T03:00:00.473+10:00I would just like to say that i am not to be confu...I would just like to say that i am not to be confused with those anonymouses masquerading as me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-45683320165947496072011-08-23T04:11:44.355+10:002011-08-23T04:11:44.355+10:00I think it would be an interesting experiment to o...I think it would be an interesting experiment to open it up to different people but you might get some self-promoters. I wonder if there is another way? "flagging" or something??<br /><br />I also really like the authorship you have here and I like it when people hijack that it's fun :)<br /><br />We all need something to rebel against.<br /><br />Enjoyed the convo but feel like it&Richard Pettiferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916298496154973547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-59745688735521880182011-08-17T08:36:41.244+10:002011-08-17T08:36:41.244+10:00Thanks all. Glad to see the enthusiasm for discuss...Thanks all. Glad to see the enthusiasm for discussion about everything! I feel that I should create an open thread where people can talk about productions they've seen. What do you think?<br /><br />Lachlan, I'll be attempting to get a couple of reviews up today. The truth is that over the past couple of months I've been feeling a wee bit burned out, so am a bit slow. Sometimes I justAlison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-5591263899604251692011-08-17T00:32:53.165+10:002011-08-17T00:32:53.165+10:00I have to agree with Cameron Woodhead's commen...I have to agree with Cameron Woodhead's comment about Winterfall Theatre's production of Caryl Churchill's A NUMBER. I saw it and was blown away. It was the most unsettling, disturbing, funny, and compelling theatre I have seen in years! Yes indeed, independent theatre can make a big impression- I am cancelling my MTC subsciption. Loved Hamlet but I am sick to death of seeing the sameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-53146702580412846012011-08-16T23:15:45.423+10:002011-08-16T23:15:45.423+10:00Why hasn't someone already commissioned this r...Why hasn't someone already commissioned this reality TV series? Sure-fire hit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-7055737048298660522011-08-16T22:41:30.057+10:002011-08-16T22:41:30.057+10:00Thanks Angela. Thanks each and every anonymous blo...Thanks Angela. Thanks each and every anonymous blogger. Please Alison, can you please review something else now. This had run out of gas.Lachlan Philpottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-34031376056710168602011-08-16T21:49:03.555+10:002011-08-16T21:49:03.555+10:00Calm down everyone. Theatre is not the cure for ca...Calm down everyone. Theatre is not the cure for cancer. I love reading Cameron and Alison. It's more interesting and entertaining than any theatre I've seen recentlly. Have you thought about doing a TV show together? I am serious. I think you would make a fortune. A sort of theatre version of Margaret and David, only younger of course. You could even tap into gen Y and do it reality Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-76891733663180461042011-08-16T21:25:33.227+10:002011-08-16T21:25:33.227+10:00What concerned me about Silent Disco was the high ...What concerned me about Silent Disco was the high value it placed on dominant cultural values characteristic of the white middle to upper classes. A dominant class is easily able to impose its definition of reality upon the working class, particularly in an educational context. Mrs Petchell’s “story” merely reflected the powerful position held by the ruling class within Capitalist society. I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-57883056920821470582011-08-16T19:49:35.271+10:002011-08-16T19:49:35.271+10:00Thanks for the apologies regarding your reference ...Thanks for the apologies regarding your reference to Girl Who Cried Wolf Lachlan. You’re right, you didn’t choose the right words or context. That was poor form. <br /><br />Thanks Rose for contextualising the work. <br /><br />I’ve only read your play unfortunately but I think it’s really beautiful Lachlan. Well done. <br /><br />Alison, if you’re keen to see another play written for and aboutHolding Zonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11101397777208168135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-76441060705127754812011-08-15T14:07:41.822+10:002011-08-15T14:07:41.822+10:00Better be quick. Yumi is wild, the show's amaz...Better be quick. Yumi is wild, the show's amazing ... and almost sold out, from what I understand. The Caryl Churchill play at Winterfall is also first rate. Yet again, independent theatre made my week.Cameron Woodheadhttp://cameronwoodhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-27752082094673311722011-08-14T11:06:43.531+10:002011-08-14T11:06:43.531+10:00Gombrowicz, or at least that passage, makes total ...Gombrowicz, or at least that passage, makes total sense to me. It's a parallel take to Sontag's argument about the material properties of art.<br /><br />I am thinking I should see The Maids. Yumi Umiumare in Genet sounds wild to me.Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-13945114085368339642011-08-13T18:26:42.840+10:002011-08-13T18:26:42.840+10:00Matter gets pretty wibbly if you look at it too cl...Matter gets pretty wibbly if you look at it too closely, as I suppose does thought. I'm not sure I agree with or even understand what Gombrowicz is trying to say, although:<br /><br />"truth" - or at least truthfulness - in art might well be a measure of vitality, or aliveness, rather than veracity.<br /><br />certainly tallied with my view of Namatjira last night. Now for Genet'Cameron Woodheadhttp://cameronwoodhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-25807832036857382602011-08-13T09:51:43.801+10:002011-08-13T09:51:43.801+10:00Another PS: an extremely pertinent quote, coincide...Another PS: an extremely pertinent quote, coincidentally read last night in Gombrowicz's <i>A Kind of Testament</i>: <br /><br />"To tell the truth, the artist doesn't think, if by 'thinking' we mean the elaboration of a chain of concepts. In him thought is born from contact with the matter which it forms, like something auxilliary, like the demands of matter itself, like theAlison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-87085153969607694362011-08-12T17:02:43.587+10:002011-08-12T17:02:43.587+10:00I've been thinking further. I think that the o...I've been thinking further. I think that the only thing an artist can honestly "intend" is to make a certain form. That's it. In which case taxonomies, perceived by either watcher or maker, are indeed an aspect of intention, although again I'd locate the intention in the work of art. Frankly, where else are you going to locate it? Especially if the artist has been dead for Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-55926119503088946842011-08-12T16:52:58.690+10:002011-08-12T16:52:58.690+10:00I'm sorry Rose. My comments about your product...I'm sorry Rose. My comments about your production were thoughtlessly worded and made a tenuous point. I am a real fan of your work and Angela's and I loved that production with the exception of that one choice. It was a while back though and not the right words or context so my apologies.Lachlan Philpottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-41433748335816506022011-08-12T16:31:41.605+10:002011-08-12T16:31:41.605+10:00If they have nothing to do with intention, why do ...If they have nothing to do with intention, why do we both mix them together so often? Surely such taxonomies have something to do with intention. I'd argue art is what it is partly because the intention of artist and audience is rather deliberately not contiguous, allowing for a multiplicity of meanings in the nexus between them. <br /><br />And your novel isn't really introducing its ownCameron Woodheadhttp://cameronwoodhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-25136152367619447222011-08-12T16:08:59.201+10:002011-08-12T16:08:59.201+10:00A PS - I think that authorial intentions, whether ...A PS - I think that authorial intentions, whether or not they exist, have been well and truly mixed up in this argument with formal genealogies/traditions. My connecting of SD with various realist traditions is the latter activity. Such taxonomies are always arguable, of course. But they manifestly have nothing to do with "intention".Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-26917744453866295272011-08-12T16:00:13.791+10:002011-08-12T16:00:13.791+10:00Cameron - I'm a bit tired of this argument, to...Cameron - I'm a bit tired of this argument, to be honest, not least because I have rather a lot of other things to do. But as I'm struggling with a novel at the moment that keeps evading my intentions and introducing its own, unexpected intentions, I claim that, yes, absolutely, a work of art can have intentions that have nothing to do with the conscious intentions of its author(s). It&#Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-58243150027725108372011-08-12T14:59:29.819+10:002011-08-12T14:59:29.819+10:00Howdy
Just a quick one for Lachlan. The teacher (w...Howdy<br />Just a quick one for Lachlan. The teacher (with the mortar board) in Girl Who Cried Wolf by Angela Betzein was, in keeping with all the minor characters, stylized. She was a representation of 12 year old Laura Black (the central protagonist)’s fantastic, gothic worldview. Like many of the other elements, such as the gothic narration and the design, it wasn’t LITERAL. Hundred’s of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-34579030051119601662011-08-12T14:53:16.692+10:002011-08-12T14:53:16.692+10:00Now we're getting somewhere.
Yes, I understan...Now we're getting somewhere.<br /><br />Yes, I understand the pressures of writing and I make enough linguistic errors myself not to hold yours against you.<br /><br />No, I do not have a reductive view of Barthes. The reading-through-biography part of Barthes' critique is lucid, and if he'd stopped there I'd have no problem with him. Sure, if Shakespearean criticism remained Cameron Woodheadhttp://cameronwoodhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-82245009295809980802011-08-12T14:10:11.761+10:002011-08-12T14:10:11.761+10:00Cameron: I think when I've used the word inten...Cameron: I think when I've used the word intention, it's pretty clear that I mean an intention intuited in the work: and that I DON'T mean that I have a magic lantern that illuminates the processes inside another artist's head. I'm quite willing to concede I could be more careful about signalling precisely what I mean, though: as you would know yourself, the pressures of Alison Croggonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398213223487458758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-319320871311560032011-08-12T14:01:07.687+10:002011-08-12T14:01:07.687+10:00Legitimate boring debate.
Barthes, Barthes, Bart...Legitimate boring debate. <br /><br />Barthes, Barthes, Barthes - I would posit most people reading this blog are familiar with old Barthes' seminal essay. <br /><br />Move on! Move on, Cameron! Before I am sick!!!!Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-66807124164746943132011-08-12T13:57:51.225+10:002011-08-12T13:57:51.225+10:00Again Alison's barrackers attempt to hijack le...Again Alison's barrackers attempt to hijack legitimate debate. Yawn.Cameron Woodheadhttp://cameronwoodhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-13880817794553265562011-08-12T13:46:20.888+10:002011-08-12T13:46:20.888+10:00Oh my god, he's still talking about Barthes......Oh my god, he's still talking about Barthes...Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202906.post-72845412875920483802011-08-12T13:44:33.800+10:002011-08-12T13:44:33.800+10:00Anyone who hasn't read Kerouac, led alone Rome...Anyone who hasn't read Kerouac, led alone Romeo and Juliet (!?) - is a bum. <br /><br />Also - I am disturbed by both Cameron Woodhead's dubious metaphor, and his depressingly predictable reference to Roland Barthes. <br /><br />All of you - except Alison - make me sick.Tnoreply@blogger.com